Bible and Islamic texts say to harm gays, so we brought forward the good parts of these religions, but not the harm gays parts.
- If it were up to us, we’d let gays into “heaven” (if any), and avoid “hell”. Love gays as equals [xxxxxxxxlink!!!]! Gays are not hurting you, are better for the planet [xxxxxxxxxxxlink!!!!!], and have contributed many many things to the world (Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, etc.) At the Center For Scientific Humanism, we believe we have the least racist, least misogynistic, and least homophobic belief system in the world. Join us in making the world a better place!
- Bible/God/Jesus:
- Jesus IS god.
- Homosexuality is an abomination to God (like shrimp).
- Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22
- Except that unlike eating shrimp, the punishment for homosexuality is death.
- If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev.20:13
- Or exile.
- Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD ... And he took away the sodomites out of the land. ... Asa's heart was perfect with the LORD all his days. 1 Kings 15:11-14
- Jehoshaphat ... walked in all the ways of Asa his father; he turned not aside from it, doing that which was right in the eyes of the LORD ... The remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land. 1 Kings 42:42-46
- And the New Testament is just as intolerant toward homosexuals.
- For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (God will make you gay!) Romans 1:26-27
- God gave them over to a reprobate mind ... without natural affection ... they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:28-32
- The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom ... neither fornicators ... nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind ... shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
- Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for ... them that defile themselves with mankind ... and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine ... These filthy dreamers defile the flesh. 1 Timothy 1:9-10
- Even as Sodom and Gomorrha ... giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh ... suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7-8
- Gay marriage is not recognized.
- Jesus himself defined marriage as only between a man and a woman. Mt 19:4-6. But we teach that marriage includes man/man, and also woman/woman.
- Except for Jesus (who hung out with 12 guys and never said anything bad about homosexuality), who said that you can increase your chances of being raptured by being gay. (So pray to be gay!)
- I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Luke 17:34-35
- And finally, rejoice and be glad when you see homosexuals (lead about by silly, lusty, educated women), because then you'll know for sure that Jesus is coming soon.
- In the last days ... men shall be ... without natural affection ... lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ... ever learning. 2 Timothy 3:1-7
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| Many religious texts teach to kill gays - let's be too loving to accept that. |
- Islamic texts:
- Qur'an:
If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is
Oft-returning, Most Merciful. Qur'an 4:16
We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit
lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye
practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people
transgressing beyond bounds. And his people gave no answer but this: they
said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be
clean and pure!" But we saved him and his family, except his wife: she was
of those who legged behind. And
we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see what was the end of
those who indulged in sin and crime! Qur'an 7:80
"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach
males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing
(all limits)!" They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt
assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings. O my
Lord! deliver me and my family from such things as they do!" So We
delivered him and his family,- all Except an old woman who lingered behind.
Then afterward We destroyed the others. We
rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those
who were admonished (but heeded not)! Qur'an 26:165
(We also sent) Lut (as a messenger): behold, He said to his
people, "Do ye do what is shameful though ye see (its iniquity)? Would
ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly)
ignorant! But his people gave
no other answer but this: they said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from
your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" Then We
saved him and his household save his wife; We destined her to be of those who
stayed behind. And We rained
down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were
admonished (but heeded not)! Qur'an 27:54
And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do
commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you.
"Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway?- and practise
wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but
this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the
truth." He said: "O my Lord! help Thou me against people who do
mischief!" When Our Messengers came to Abraham with the good news, they
said: "We are indeed going to destroy the people of this township: for
truly they are (addicted to) crime."
Qur'an 29:28
Hadith:
Sahih Bukhari
Narrated Ibn
'Abbas: The Prophet cursed
effeminate men; those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of
women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn
them out of your houses." The Prophet turned out such-and-such man,
and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman.
Sahih Bukhari 7:72:774
Narrated Ibn
'Abbas: The Prophet cursed
effeminate men and those
women who assume the similitude (manners) of men. He also said, "Turn
them out of your houses." He turned out such-and-such person out, and
'Umar turned out such-and-such person. Sahih Bukhari 8:82:820
Abu Dawud[edit]
Narated By
Abdullah ibn Abbas : The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find
anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill
the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done. Abu Dawud 38:4447
Narated By
Abdullah ibn Abbas : If a man who is not married is seized committing
sodomy, he will be stoned to
death. Abu Dawud 38:4448
Narrated
AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man should not look at the
private parts of another man, and a woman should not look at the private parts
of another woman. A man should not lie with another man without wearing
lower garment under one cover; and a woman should not be lie with another woman
without wearing lower garment under one cover. Abu Dawud 31:4007
Narrated
AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man should not lie with another
man and a woman should not lie with another woman without covering their private parts
except a child or a father. He also mentioned a third thing which I forgot. Abu Dawud 31:4008
AbuDawud said:
From here I remembered this tradition from Mu'ammil and Musa: Beware! No man should lie with
another man, no woman should lie with another woman except with one's child or father. He
also mentioned a third which I have forgotten... Abu Dawud 11:2169
Narrated
AbuHurayrah: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) cursed the man who dressed like a
woman and the woman who dressed like a man.
Abu Dawud 32:4087
Narrated Aisha,
Ummul Mu'minin: Ibn AbuMulaykah told that when someone remarked to Aisha that a
woman was wearing sandals, she replied: The
Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) cursed mannish women. Abu Dawud 32:4088
Al Tirmidhi
Whoever is found
conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver. rmidhi 1:152
It was narrated
by Jaabir (may Allah be pleased with him): "The Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him) said: 'There is nothing I fear for my ummah
more than the deed of the people of Loot.'" Tirmidhi 1457
Ibn Majah
It was narrated
from Abu Hurairah: that the
Messenger of Allah cursed women who imitate men and men who imitate women.
(Sahih) Ibn Majah 3:9:1903
It was narrated
from Ibn 'Abbas: that the
Prophet cursed men who imitate women and woman who imitate men. (Sahih) Ibn Majah 3:9:1904
It was narrated
from Ibn`Abbas that the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever you find doing the
action of the people of Lut, kill
the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.” (Hasan) Ibn Majah 3:20:2561
It was narrated
from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet said concerning those who do the action of
the people of Lut: “Stone the upper and the lower, stone them both.”
(Hasan) Ibn Majah 3:20:2562
Al Muwatta
Malik related to
me that he asked Ibn Shihab about someone who committed sodomy. Ibn Shihab
said, "He is to be stoned, whether or not he is muhsan." Al-Muwatta 41 41.111
Miscellaneous
It was narrated
that Ibn Abbaas said: “The Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings of Allah be
upon him) said: "... cursed is the one who has intercourse with an animal, cursed is the one who does the
action of the people of Loot." Narrated by Ahmad, 1878: Classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani
in Saheeh al-Jaami’, no. 5891
Ibn Abbas and
Abu Huraira reported God's messenger as saying, 'Accursed is he who does what
Lot's people did.' In a version...on the authority of Ibn Abbas it says that
Ali [Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law] had
two people “burned” and that
Abu Bakr [Muhammad's chief companion] had
a wall thrown down on them. Mishkat, vol. 1, p. 765, Prescribed Punishments
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